2012 Enigma 11-11-11 The Spiritual Awakening and the Dawn of a New Era For All Mankind to Experience Spiritually part 6
2012 Enigma 11-11-11 The Spiritual Awakening and the Dawn of a New Era For All Mankind to Experience Spiritually part 6
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2012 Enigma 11-11-11 The Spiritual Awakening and the Dawn of a New Era For All Mankind to Experience Spiritually part 1
2012 Enigma 11-11-11 The Spiritual Awakening and the Dawn of a New Era For All Mankind to Experience Spiritually part 1
“When a group of a like-minded energy healers converge to heal a particular person, healing benefits are magnified considerably.”
Here are the Spiritual Awakening details ~
According to Spiritual Visionary and Earth Scientist Gregg Braden, “We only need 8000 people to make a difference on entire planet when we join together with the visualizations and prayers. Everyone Can make a difference…”
“Your work is to discover your purpose and then with all your heart to give yourself to it.” – Buddha
Visionary Scientist and Researcher David Wilcock reveals the Spiritual Awakening Significance of 2012
One of a variety of techniques I developed a is to mentally imagine yourself the peaceful translator of turbulent energy into peaceful serenity. Picture this as each breath is drawn deeply into your nose the turbulence of the impeding storm peacefully softened by inhaling in the turbulent energy and exhaling peaceful energy into the galaxy.
Work on perfecting the peaceful meditations in your daily life. This will further attune your mind, body and spirit for when a higher calling comes as well.
Over the next week he will release more exciting details on the milestone practice of hurricane prevention by dissipating deadly storms energies.
A pivotal factor is the quality of manifesting intentions a student of the concept focuses on. Combine his open-mindedness with focused mind over matter training and now you’re ready to accomplish a quantum leap forward in the Law of attraction.
A Spiritual Healer Connects to the Divine and Sends Energy Healing to their Spiritually Intended Client
“Healer 2.0 Healing” is an Evolution in Spiritual Healing, Energy Healing and Reiki Healing.
Suzanne Parnell, Ph.D provides a glimpse of the power of Reiki:
“Reiki, (ray-key) is an easy to learn, simple to use method of natural hands-on energy healing that promotes health and well being in both practitioners and recipients. To have and use Reiki, a person need do nothing more than be attuned by an empowered Master and have the intent to make healing energy available whenever they put their hands on themselves or someone else. It is that simple–and everyone can do it. Reiki is not a religion; it has no arcane dogma, no religious tenets; it requires no rigorous ascetic practices or rituals. Anyone, everyone can be a conduit for Reiki healing energy.
Reiki, which is both a name for theUsui 1 Universal Life Energy and for the specific method of connecting people to that energy, was discovered in Japan in the early 1920′s by Dr. Mikao Usui, a man deeply interested in the benefits derived from meditation and other forms of natural healing. In 1935, Mrs. Hawayo Takata, an American woman born in Hawaii of Japanese parents, was healed through Reiki of a life threatening medical condition while on a visit to Japan. Convinced of the effectiveness and importance of this completely natural healing method,Takata Mrs. Takata pleaded to be allowed to learn Reiki even though it was (and still is) held in an elite Japanese society called the Gakkai, with membership restricted to native Japanese. Undaunted by cultural differences, Takata persisted until finally her earnest desire for Reiki and her gentle demeanor opened the way for her to be trained by Dr. Chujiro Hayashi, the last Reiki Master directly initiated by Dr. Usui before his death.
After a year of training in Dr. Hayashi’s clinic, Mrs. Takata returned to Hawaii the first “outsider” to be taught Japanese Reiki and the first westerner to be made a Reiki Master. From its quiet debut in 1939 in Mrs. Takata’s clinic on the big island of Hawaii, Reiki in its westernized form has spread world wide, with Masters and practitioners in over forty countries on every continent. In one of the ironies of history, Reiki as it descends from Takata’s lineage of training is now the principle form of Reiki available in Japan as the Gakkai still does not make Reiki widely available.
With millions of practitioners across the world, and more trained daily, there is little doubt in the minds of Reiki practitioners–or of those who receive it–that Reiki is a powerful healing energy and the Reiki Method an easy, accessible way for everyone to enjoy health and quality of life. While evidence of Reiki’s healing properties is still mostly anecdotal, scientists are beginning to explore the effects of Reiki healing in a more formal context (see Research). We at the Traditional Reiki Institute believe we are at the very beginning of an amazing journey of discovery as research into subtle energies, and Reiki in particular, opens the way for new methods of integrating the best of western medicine with the best of eastern medicine for the benefit of all. In the meantime, the last seventy-five years of Reiki healing has demonstrated we can use these energies safely and effectively without scientific understanding of how Reiki heals at the cellular level. We already know all we need to use Reiki for powerful healing while we wait for scientific explanations to catch up.
The ability to channel Reiki healing energy to ourselves and others is not a learned “skill” acquired through study, practice, or some natural gift. Reiki ability is an “energetic empowerment” opened in the hands of everyday normal people by a Reiki Master trained in the subtle energy technology of Reiki attunements. Once a person is attuned, using Reiki is a very simple, pleasant, non-verbal, energetic “experience” that makes verbal explanations difficult to formulate and ultimately unsatisfactory. Just as describing joy bears little connection to the experience of joy, so too the words used to explain Reiki, while necessary for communication, are mere shadows of the energetic reality. When word descriptions are necessary, the easiest explanation begins with the word Reiki itself.
2012 Enigma 11-11-11 The Spiritual Awakening and the Dawn of a New Era For All Mankind to Experience Spiritually part 3
2012 Enigma 11-11-11 The Spiritual Awakening and the Dawn of a New Era For All Mankind to Experience Spiritually part 3
“Healer 2.0″ uses Evolutionary Energy Healing Therapies combined with Breakthrough Advances in Holistic Healing for Fighting Cancer, Disease and Life Transformation
Dr. Ravi takes the 11-11-11 spiritual awakening discussion deeper with his revelations into “Mantras”.
“We are store houses of immense energy. We can tap into this energy and hidden sources of information through the power of chanting. Some cultures – the Melanesians, Mbuti Pygmies, Cibique Apaches – promote successful hunting and fishing through chanting. Chanting is an important part of many Shamanic cultures, Shamanic chants are often invocations of spirit helpers, animals, and nature deities, and help prepare a shaman to be fully in their power when a ritual takes place. These chants are not “texts” in the same way that contemporary religious writings are texts. They may have occasionally been written down, but for the most part they were oral texts. When ‘tripping’ apparently, chanting helps towards an intensely spiritual experience. These methods and many others have been used successfully for centuries. Even though Buddha initially taught that mantras are not needed, he did eventually teach Mantra practices to various groups. Buddhist sects from Sri Lanka, for example, have chanted the Gayatri Mantra for hundreds of years. The great Kalachakra Mantra discipline was Buddha’s final teaching. It is now taught by Tibetans. In his book, ‘The Kalachakra Tantra’, the Dalai Lama writes, ‘Without depending upon Mantras……..Buddhahood cannot be attained’.
Many meditative traditions use Mantras. The words Amen, Shalom, Aum and Omkar are all mantras. Not just any word can be a Mantra. Mantras are special sounds that have particular characteristics and effects. Sounds vibrating in themselves have no literal meaning and are known only as vibrations. When they effect material substances, these vibrations create forms and their forms have names. The mantras are beneficial in their effect on the entire human being. It is said that in ancient times, sages, who devoted their lives to meditation, heard these sounds within.
A Mantra works through its resonance. Mantra’s have their own vibration. Each word within a mantra has its own vibration. A Mantra is a collection of words that have been knitted together in such a way that while reading them, the vibration produced generates energy.
This energy can be focused into a direction so that it can reach the Deity for whom the mantra is being chanted. Mantras can be used for both negative and positive energies. The vibration energy of the mantra does not die but stays in the atmosphere.
Chanting a mantra produces an actual physical vibration. This is one level of energy. Another level is intent. If the actual physical vibration is coupled with a mental intention, the vibration then contains an additional mental component which influences the result of saying it.
The sound is the carrier wave and the intent is overlaid upon this wave form. The mantra wave or energy can be compared with radio waves, for example, which can generated at one location and can be picked up in another location. The requirements for this to work are the generation of the waves, and an instrument that can pick up or receive these waves.
In the case of mantra chanting, the generator of the waves is the disciple chanting the mantra with intent and the receiving ‘instrument’ is the deity of the mantra.
In the modern world, the science of Mantra is difficult to understand because we have come to believe that only words, not meaningless sounds (Mantras), have truth or value. Mantras operate at a deeper level. A Mantra has an effect because of its qualities of vibration and sound rather than because of its literal meaning. Meaningfulness is a property of words, yet the goal in meditation is not to deal with meanings, using the analytical part of the mind, but instead to experience ourselves at a deeper level. All sounds have certain qualities. Some are soothing, others are energising. Some create abundance, some protect. One of the purposes of the sounds we call Mantras is to help us to focus the mind so we can attain a deeper experience than that created by thought alone. Group members who come from different religious backgrounds may worry that ‘Mantra practice’ comes from a foreign religion. It is important to realise that mantra meditation is not a religious process and is used by many traditions.
2012 Enigma 11-11-11 The Spiritual Awakening and the Dawn of a New Era For All Mankind to Experience Spiritually part 4
2012 Enigma 11-11-11 The Spiritual Awakening and the Dawn of a New Era For All Mankind to Experience Spiritually part 4
To make the mind empty is difficult as by its very nature, the mind changes, processes memories, makes associations and constantly takes in new information. Possibly the only time the mind becomes somewhat still is in the deep state of dreamless sleep. Because of these mental processes, one method to make the mind quiet and focused is to tempt or lead it to concentrate on one object or stimulus at a time. The goal therefore is not to make the mind empty, but to quieten the mind by giving it a single focus. (Hindu traditions for example, have many idols or Demi Gods. There are many thousands to choose from and you choose the one which appeals to your psyche. The purpose of ‘Idols’ within Hinduism is misunderstood and usually mocked by other religions. Even the general Hindu believer does not understand it fully. The idol is there to create a single focus mind, ‘worship’ of this idol is a by product. The idol is meant to be used as a symbol in meditation).
A word, phrase, sound or a symbol can be used to give the mind this one-pointed focus on which to concentrate. Mantras can be used to focus. The words Amen, Shalom, and Om (Aum) are all mantras. There are many sounds, syllables or words which can be used as mantras. Many aspirants try and co ordinate a mantra with their inhalation and exhalation. Not all mantras however can be utilised in this manner. Mantra is a powerful tool, a compact prayer. Constant prayer creates awareness and constant awareness leads to self-realization.
Carrying on with Mantras, many have asked about Mantra chanting during breathing, inhalation and exhalation. Not all Mantras can be coordinated with the breath during inhalation and exhalation. If you try to force the Mantra to follow the waves of your breath, you will end up creating a distraction for yourself and disrupt your breathing. The goal is not to keep on paying attention to the process of breathing. Soham mantra lends itself perfectly to our inhalation and exhalation. The Soham Mantra is a universal mantra and perfect for realigning your chakras and for centering.
All sounds have certain qualities. Some are soothing others are energizing. As readers of this Healer 2.0 blog come from many different backgrounds and religions I am proposing using a universal and a natural sound SO HAM to initially focus the wandering mind. What is SO…..HAM?
Soham (pronounced “So’hum”) literally means “I am Him”. Every soul has a presence of God in it. In other words, it means “God is within”.
This natural mantra, is the mantra of your true self. It does not belong to the East or the West or to any religion. So’ham is the inherent in everybody, in all of us; it repeats itself continually, along with our breathing. It is said that as long as this mantra keeps going on inside us, there is life in the body. As soon as it stops, we are no more.
The Bible tells us that in the beginning there was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. But in the beginning, there were no words, no languages, or even sounds of humans or animals. So what was the Word that was in the beginning?
The ancient cavemen, before they had invented language or fire, would sit in their dark caves and have nothing else to focus on but the sound of their breath. Similarly, the first sound we hear when we were in our mothers’ womb is the sound of her breath, and this sound has been with us ever since we drew our first breath. It negates the need to rely on any of the words of the languages of the world to use as a mantra. It can be done even while driving, working, and doing other acts of daily life and thereby offers a continuous experience of being in the present. This is a great present, because Reality takes place now, in the present. Soham is a wonder-full meditation/focusing technique and I hope its constant application will bring you the experience of Knowledge, Consciousness, and Bliss that is your birthright.
In Sanskrit, the sound of the inhalation is termed SO, and the exhalation is HAM. Combined, the word Soham is translated as “I Am He/That”. So, whenever you are doing this technique, you are calling on God. Every breath thus becomes a prayer and adoration.
How SOHAM can be utilised to regain focus and how it can be used to center yourself.
At the time and in the place where you feel most comfortable, place your body in the position that you have found to be the most beneficial for meditation. Close your eyes. Close your ears by putting your thumbs in them, or by using earplugs. This will intensify the sound of your breath while diminishing the distractions that sight and sound bring. Focus on the sound of your breath coming in. Associate it with the word So. As your breath leaves, listen to the sound and associate it with the word Ham. To pronounce So and Ham correctly, listen to how they sound. For those just starting to use this technique, it is usual to silently say the word So with each inhalation and the word Ham with each exhale. When you are focused consistently, consciously, you will flow into simply listening to the sound of Soham. Soham is by far the easiest meditation. It comes to all living creatures without any effort. The following link illustrates precisely how SOHAM can be done or performed. It is much better than explaining.
2012 Enigma 11-11-11 The Spiritual Awakening and the Dawn of a New Era For All Mankind to Experience Spiritually part 5
2012 Enigma 11-11-11 The Spiritual Awakening and the Dawn of a New Era For All Mankind to Experience Spiritually part 5
Mantra is also considered a condensed form of spiritual energy. It can also be thought of as a compact prayer-a means of communicating with the absolute reality. The yogic scriptures often compare Mantra to a boat or a bridge that an aspirant can use to cross the mud of delusion created by the external world and to reach the center of consciousness within. According to some mystics and yogis, Mantra is an eternal friend who accompanies the meditator even after death, lighting the path in the realm where the light of the sun and the moon cannot penetrate.
I will discuss later how this happens.
Some consider that Mantra is itself the guru: Mantra, God, guru, and one’s Self are identical. This concept is difficult to grasp for those who are not familiar with the branch of metaphysics known as spanda, the science of eternal vibration. To explain briefly, spanda holds that all creation evolves from the Word. The Word referred to is not speech uttered by a human voice or the audible sound produced when two objects strike each other, but anahata nada, the unstruck sound which vibrates eternally in the realm of pure consciousness. This unstruck sound, the Word that existed before the beginning of creation, is called akshara, shabda Brahman, vak shakti, or spanda.
Although a full-fledged doctrine of the Word developed only in the East, this concept is found in all of the world’s great spiritual traditions, including Buddhism, Sufism, Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, as well as in the spiritual practices of many tribal societies. For example, the Karadjeri of Australia believe that objects came into manifestation only after the first two humans pronounced their names. According to Kabbala, the medieval tradition of Jewish mysticism, God himself is transcendent, but a series of ten emanations of light (sefirot) that are his “manifest and noble aspects” issue from him. Divine names and letters, the twenty-two consonants of the Hebrew alphabet, emerged parallel to these ten emanations. The texts of ancient Sumeria also speak of the creative power of the divine Word, stating that the universe begins to evolve as thought arises in the mind of the divine being. Objects spring into being as the divinity utters their names. This is similar to the Old Testament account of creation, in which God speaks the manifest world into existence: “And God said, ‘Let there be light,’ and there was light.” In the New Testament, the Gospel of John elaborates on this concept, saying: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
In the spiritual realm, the ultimate revelation, which is also the ultimate initiation, comes in the form of a silent communication in the universal language and is communicable to very few. That is why, in the end, Moses laid his hand only on Joshua and Krishna only on Uddhava. Christ gave the key of the Word to Peter.
The wisdom that is mantra has its source in supreme truth. However, it flows down to seekers in various grades and degrees. It clothes itself in the garb of different languages, and seekers identify it as a Sanskrit mantra, a Tibetan mantra, or a Buddhist mantra. Such identifications are only partially true. The transforming power of mantras, even in their articulate form, are beyond ordinary perception because they still are connected with the source.
Whatever form they take, the purpose of all meditative mantras is to enable the practitioner to go beyond the mind and have a direct experience of his or her essential nature. It is not the meaning of the mantra but its subtle vibrations that lead or carry the meditator to the center of silence within. However, this process cannot really be understood until it is experienced personally.
Another unique group of mantras, called sabar mantras, are extremely puzzling to the rational mind. These mantras are expressed in Sanskrit, Pali, Prakrit, Hindi, Urdu, and a number of Asian vernaculars and dialects. No interpretive rules can be drawn for this particular group of mantras. These sabar mantras can be in one language or a mixture of languages, and they may or may not have a specific meaning. Sabar Mantras never show the intended result unless one receives them directly from a master. It is important not to confuse a Sabar mantra with a Guru Mantra which is a part of the Guru – Disciple relationship. Sabar Mantras, are mostly for siddhis (spiritual powers) or immediate results and have no or very little spiritual value.
I like the Deep – Resonant Vibrations of some Sounds or Words in songs or language. As I was trying new things with my Voice training, I noticed some things had an Entire Spinal Benefit. From my male self all the way to the base of the Head and Throat. There was a healing and stimulating benefit. I am discovering new “Free Form Mantras” to Resonate my Body. I also agree with you Ravi in that a Focal Point is a Key also. I like a Single Small White Candle. It’s a “Fluid” Focal Point that is also Soothing to experience.”
Thanks Dr. Ravi for your contributions to this 11-11-11 Spiritual Awakening series.
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There is Nothing that Creates More Anxiety and Fear of the Unknown Than Being Told – You Have Breast Cancer part 11
There is Nothing that Creates More Anxiety and Fear of the Unknown Than Being Told – You Have Breast Cancer part 11
DM: I want to go exactly there in a moment. But if someone is interested in participating in this public health trial that they could sponsor and get enormous benefit because they’ll know what their levels are and literally you only do this test a few times and you kind of know what your dose should be. It’s really beneficial. It’s a win-win for everyone. How would they get involved and what does it look like? What do they do for a test? How frequently is the test? How long is their participation?
CB: First of all, the simplest thing they can do is log on to our website which is Grass Roots Health. Right there, bold front, it says, “Join D action.”
That’s wide open to anybody in the world. The study protocol is that people will do a vitamin D test. We mail them a test kit they can do at home.
DM: So you don’t have to go to a blood drawing center.
CB: They don’t have to do a blood draw.
DM: The blood is not drawn. It’s just a little pin prick.
CB: It’s just finger prick which hurts.
DM: We want to be honest. We need a drop of blood.
CB: They have to answer an online questionnaire with various health questions twice a year, each six months. After the first six months, we send them a reminder saying it’s time for the next one so forth and so on. People can be a sponsor for one time only but
14the real desire is to have people choose to stay in the process for five years so we can really see what the health outcomes are.
DM: What is the cost for each test?
CB: The cost for each one if they are in the five year study is $60 or $120 a year plus shipping. That’s it. And they are helping sponsor the study.
DM: Terrific. It’s just great.
CB: We very much appreciate it.
DM: If you’re watching this and this is something that will interest you, I would strongly recommend you consider doing that. We know that the test being used pinch your finger? It is an accurate test. We looked very carefully at the methodology as I’m sure you did.
CB: Yes we do.
DM: There are two lab companies in the country that do this test for vitamin D that do the blood test and one that we recommend is LabCorp. The other, we don’t recommend. This other test, the third test, the pin prick test is actually more accurate than the other company from our experience. I haven’t looked at it for a few years. They may have changed their methodology but they are seriously over reporting the numbers. So if you got a high number, it would actually be 40% lower. So test works. That is the end point of that.
CB: We validate it regularly as well as the company that performs it.
DM: That’s great.
CB: It’s very good.
DM: You’ve had 8000 people enrolled in trial. What other observations or analyses have been able to identify at this time?
CB: In terms of analysis of the data itself within about a year’s time it’s pretty short to look at the health outcomes but we’re paying attention to that. Hopefully, within the next 12 months we’ll have enough data to really talk about health outcomes which is like how many people – what their average blood pressure, so forth and so on.
DM: Are you looking at cancer too?
CB: Of course.
DM: Have had any initial observations? I’m particularly curious because I still don’t believe that oral vitamin D works really well for the treatment of cancer. I mean if you didn’t have any choice, I would use it in a heartbeat. Does it really work? (indiscernible 37:46).
CB: The thing that I would say to support that it’s bound to work somewhat – I wouldn’t call it treatment of cancer but I would call it prevention of cancer…
DM: They are two different things.
CB: I understand. I’m talking about prevention though. I am not talking about treatment.
DM: Okay.
CB: With regards to prevention, I’m very convinced it works as a result of a randomized trial that was done in which results were published in 2007 by Joan Lappe out of Creighton University where they had a group of about 1100 post menopausal women who started out with no cancer and they had their control groups. One of them had vitamin D and one of them of course you have a placebo.
DM: Oral vitamin D.
CB: Right, oral vitamin D. At the end of four years, there was a 77% difference between those that had the vitamin D and calcium versus the placebo. So something is working.
DM: That is powerful.
CB: It was on all cancers. So something happens.
DM: I would agree with that. Oral vitamin D seems to work for prevention but when you get to treatment that’s my question.
CB: I don’t know that. More to come.
DM: Is it possible that your study would be able to (indiscernible 39:00)?
CB: It is very possible because we have quite a number of people in the study who have had and do have cancer right now. One of the things that’s interesting to observe right now is something I can see right now is what happens like they’ve got their vitamin D level and then between test 1 and test 2 or 2 and 3 or something like that. In that time period there, they get diagnosed with cancer.
What is interesting is the behavioral observation. We’ve had a few people who have had been diagnosed with breast cancer and two out of – I think four or five of them – two out of them immediately, the diagnosis was here and all of a sudden they say they have reduced their intake of vitamin D. I guarantee you that came from the physician telling them no don’t take that.
There is Nothing that Creates More Anxiety and Fear of the Unknown Than Being Told – You Have Breast Cancer part 10
There is Nothing that Creates More Anxiety and Fear of the Unknown Than Being Told – You Have Breast Cancer part 10
DM: That was earlier this year?
CB: That was November of 2010.
DM: So last year. Their revised report on vitamin D.
CB: Yeah. They stated in their report that 10,000 International Units a day is called a no observed adverse event level. In other words, even the IOM didn’t see anything wrong. They couldn’t find anything. The process for going to well anybody can take is a little bit better than throwing a dart. But they’re throwing a dart said, any adult can take 4000 IU a day and that’s considered the upper limit.
DM: Even though there were no reported adverse effects for below 10,000?
CB: Right. But they added a safety factor. On the good side that means if somebody just is totally – you know, I’m not going to test. I’m not going to do any of these sorts of things. I can’t afford to. I don’t want to whatever, go take 4000 IU a day.
DM: But more or likely it should be closer to 8000 or 6000.
CB: If we’re aiming again at that serum level, our data showed that it’s going to take
about 8000 a day for the majority of the population to get above 40.
DM: That’s interesting. This is the data from your study.
CB: It is.
DM: Is this still open?
CB: This is published.
DM: Is it still open?
CB: Sure. We’re running it ongoing. That was just the first paper. It was published in February.
DM: How many people are enrolled in the study currently?
CB: Currently, we have 8000.
DM: That’s a lot of people.
CB: Yes. We want lots of people.
DM: So this trial of 8000 people, you are able to provide some very beneficial data. I wasn’t aware that you had published that, that 8000 is the dose that most people need to a therapeutic level.
CB: To get to 40 nanograms. So that you can say it as a population level, don’t worry about testing almost everybody.
DM: That is a very profound recommendation maybe one of the highlights of this interview. The new dose is 8000. Can you tell us a little bit more about your trial? We’ve been promoting people to enroll in it.
CB: Thank you.
DM: Curiously, it just kind of shocks me that people objected to the fact that they had to pay for their test. They thought it was some type of revenue generating when all they are being charged for was the wholesale cost of the test which is less than what they would pay for if they went to the doctor. It’s just kind surprising to me since everything else in the study has been funded.
CB: Most studies – and people come in with this mindset – most studies that people get involved in scientific studies are funded by the government or some external thing. We have no government funding.
DM: Right. This is all privately.
CB: This is all funded either by yours truly. All of these participants…
DM: Are people who are donating to the project.
CB: Yes, exactly.
DM: So there is no government funding at all.
CB: That is right. The funding has to cover the test cost. It has to cover the publication and the writing and the consulting fees that we have to pay to get the thing out the door which are substantial.
DM: So this is not a profit generating…
CB: No. We are a non-profit in more ways than one.
DM: You have run many businesses and you know how to earn a profit. The design and intention of this project is nothing to do with revenue generation, absolutely nothing. You have done that. You’ve been there. You have generated that revenue you need to, to live a healthy life.
CB: I think people don’t understand that what they are paying when they help do this is they really are helping sponsor a major public health effort as opposed to paying for a test. Paying for a test who cares. Alright, I can complain about that. But we really wanted to reframe that and to helping people realize that their sponsorship and their doing this test and answering this questionnaire is helping us carry this message to the next step, to really change public health practices around the world.
We don’t need more clinical trials or yes, you can need more clinical trials but what really is needed right now is exactly what we’re doing which is a massive population trial where you get lots of people taking higher doses, getting more sunshine and getting their levels higher. So you can see what’s going to happen. We track the outcomes very seriously in all the time and we do pay attention on any adverse events. There haven’t been any.
There is Nothing that Creates More Anxiety and Fear of the Unknown Than Being Told – You Have Breast Cancer part 9
There is Nothing that Creates More Anxiety and Fear of the Unknown Than Being Told – You Have Breast Cancer part 9
DM: Because of your educational efforts both professionally and in a lay version, the demand for that test started skyrocketing because people understood how important it was.
CB: Sure. And the science is there.
DM: They obviously don’t have an unlimited budget so they decided to put the breaks on that and they stopped paying for it.
CB: They had stopped paying for it. This is not the same in all the provinces though. We are still making considerable headway with keeping the provinces in charge. We’re alsostartingtorunsomemajorresearchprojectsinotherprovinces. Wehavejust started one in Calgary. We will be starting another one soon in Vancouver where groups of doctors get together both in Calgary and in Vancouver. They’re working with our breast cancer prevention study to demonstrate very clearly that if we get women’s vitamin D levels up, the breast cancer rate is going go to go down but we have to document this.
One other thing I might add though, one of my ongoing passions, what drives you or whatever is – I’ll call it a sense of freedom. The minute that I feel constrained and I can’t do what I think is best for me or something like that, I start breaking the bounds and starting my own businesses. Dr. Banner again from Canada, his group out of the Ontario Medical Association, the college of surgeons, have recently issued a document aimed at the Complimentary Medicine Association section saying, you can’t do anything. You can’t do any procedure that hasn’t had a randomized clinical trial to support it. The call is on to save the complimentary medicine people in Canada. It’s grotesque.
DM: Using that as an illustration, you have to wonder what they would recommend to someone who was in an airplane that was crashing and had a parachute because you know to the best of my knowledge there has not been a randomized controlled trial that says using a parachute will decrease your risk of dying when you’re jumping from a plane. It’s just insane that they can’t use common sense.
CB: I know. It is insane. In that particular situation it’s also insane because just in general practice, a regular physician, not a so-called complimentary medicine, they do all kinds of things that don’t have randomized trials. They use drugs off label. They do all kinds of things.
DM: Sure. Standard protocol.
CB: There is this going on.
DM: It’s a double standard.
CB: It is very much so but it’s active.
DM: I strongly agree with your promotion of getting vitamin D testing and having Canadians do that. Canada is particularly important because as most people know, it’s north of the United States. They have far less therapeutic window probably four months where they can actually get significant vitamin D from exposure and even less the further north you go in Canada. Really, the solution for this to not use testing is just get the sun. But Canadians can only do two to four of the year so they can’t but for those who don’t want to do testing – essentially I don’t think you can’t overdose from the sun. As far as I know, you can’t.
CB: That’s what the science says.
DM: There may be some people who will argue that but practically it’s almost impossible because the UVA will actually lower excess of vitamin D. You have just to be concerned about the sunburn of course.
If you’re going to take the pills, well, then you can’t do it without the testing but you’re going to need at least 4000 probably close 6000 and maybe 8000 to 10,000 for most people test. It’s still even really low risk at those doses of overdosing. Because a few years ago even when Dr. Cannell was one of the leaders who started this. He was so careful. He tested hundreds of people before he would even go over 1000 units a day, you know, just stepping over because of the flawed research that most of us believed that was done in India that brought this concern about vitamin D toxicity from oral supplementation.
CB: Part of that research is something that Grassroots Health has now contributed to along with its thousands of people that are participating in the action study. We just published our very first paper thanks to all these beautiful participants in February. We have people in this study now that are taking 50,000 IU a day and they’re not reaching a potential toxicity level of 200 nanograms per milliliter. The study reported data on about over 3500 people.
DM: This is vitamin D3 orally?
CB: Yes. Not all orally because the people can tan as well. The message in the study is get your serum level up not how. We have quite a number of tanners in the study.
DM: But the 50,000 units you referenced was.
CB: Of course. The 50,000 definitely is a supplement.
One very significant thing shown by this research was that even with taking the supplement, the curve for the increase in the vitamin D level does not go linearly. It is curvilinear and it curves down which is why it’s even hard to get toxic with a supplement. We had the first level at which there were any impending signs was when somebody who was taking 40,000 IU a day.
One more thing, the Institute of Medicine has been under great attack for their curious recommendation about intake but they stated in their report….
There is Nothing that Creates More Anxiety and Fear of the Unknown Than Being Told – You Have Breast Cancer part 8
There is Nothing that Creates More Anxiety and Fear of the Unknown Than Being Told – You Have Breast Cancer part 8
CB: It’s very inexpensive.
DM: It’s probably one of the least expensive supplements on the market.
CB: Right. It is inexpensive but I think the biggest answer probably again in a region of the world is going to be food fortification. That is one of my goals which is okay, let’s get ourselves supplemented. Let’s get up here and let’s make this a mass thing please. But I think that there needs to be a bigger push towards making the sun our friend again because it hasn’t been. It’s been scare tactics to make it, it’s the cancer creator of skin cancer. And yet the skin cancers that are associated with the sun; the basal and squamous cell can be cut off and burned off and we don’t even track them in the U.S. because they are so numerous.
DM: Right, and relatively non-dangerous.
CB: Right.
DM: I interviewed a Dr. Stephanie Seneff – you may or may not be familiar with her. She’s a full professor out at MIT for the last three decades and has recently become passionate about health and vitamin D and cholesterol. She theorizes that there maybe this interaction with the sun and vitamin D and sulfate and that when you get the vitamin D generated by UVB exposure, it actually interacts with the sulfate in your skin and forms vitamin D sulfate.
CB: Interesting.
DM: It’s a whole different mechanism of action which is not formed when you swallow it.
CB: No, of course not.
DM: She thinks that has a big role in it but there is just very little research on this.
CB: There is very little right now.
DM: That’s really one of the most exciting areas of this – this just goes back to the basics. For centuries, thousands of years, people have recognized the value of the sun. Certain cultures worship the sun. I’m not suggesting that we worship it but we should at least respect it and understand that it has an important influence on our own health personally instead of avoiding it like the plague.
CB: There are many cultural patterns where – in some Indian cultures, the first thing that happens with the newborn is the very first dawn, the grandmother has this role of taking that always naked infant out and holding the infant up towards the sun to be blessed by the sun. This is the first day of that child’s life. When you start walking across the country and you see these things – there are also some rituals that were described from early Egypt. They had devised meditation practices and religious practices out in the sun facing exactly the right way to get the UVB rays at exactly the right time of day for the right amount of time not to burn. These were religious practices.
DM: That is fascinating.
CB: It’s just like whoa. It’s time to re-look very definitely. I totally agree.
DM: You have been passionate about this for a number of years. One of your early projects actually involved working with Canada. They have a socialized health system compared to the U.S. In some ways there is certainly some benefits of that with respect to implementing projects on a large public health perspective scale. Can you share with us your experience with that and what happened in the current project.
CB: Sure. We’re doing lots of great things in Canada. Initially in Canada I have been on many speaking tours. I speak all over the U.S. and all over the world actually just talking about vitamin D and its importance. They have quite a cadre of very interested physicians there that are very interested in doing something about this. Dr. Robert Banner, who is chair of the Complimentary Medicine section of the Ontario Medical Association – actually, their group took a position endorsing our call to action saying, we as complimentary medicine people are going to endorse it because we want us to be healthy.
I worked with the government of Ontario to counsel with them. Their issue with vitamin D is the cost of the testing. Testing does cost money.
DM: A lot more than the supplements.
CB: Yes. They had a lot of people taking the test. They called it delisting the test or not paying for these tests anymore. I counseled with them about whether or not they really should be doing that. At the very least, keep the testing paid for and therefore some of your key conditions whether it’s pregnancy or infancy or heart disease, I mean, pick some diseases if you want to, whatever. But they have chosen to do otherwise. So I had that experience.
DM: So it was compensated for and no charge…
CB: It was being paid for but now no longer is.
DM: And just at the request of the individual.
CB: Yes.
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There is Nothing that Creates More Anxiety and Fear of the Unknown Than Being Told – You Have Breast Cancer part 7
CB: Thanks you.
DM: I had one specific question and I would like to dialog with you on it because it’s been a concern of mine. I couldn’t agree more. Obviously, I have been promoting vitamin D for a long time now and I share your passion. I think that’s the central issue.
CB: I know you do.
DM: Our approach is to educate people and share the message. I think we were really one of the central roles to help catalyze this at least from a media perspective. But what is obvious to me is that there is an important subset of this because the tendency in American culture is to take a magic pill for everything – a pill solves something. So it’s great because there is a vitamin D solution but that’s not the way that it occurs in nature. I mean, yes, you can get oral vitamin D. It definitely happens and we do have the ability to increase our levels that way.
But the way that we mostly get it is through exposure to the sun. That’s a different mechanism than swallowing a pill. I don’t think any expert would disagree that it’s better to get that vitamin D from the sun and then secondarily through a safe tanning bed which is still superior to a pill. But then if there is no resort of course then the oral. It seems to me there is something magical that occurs that is actually beyond the level of vitamin D which is used as an arbiter or as a measure.
The question that I have is it actually useful – I mean, certainly you don’t have any other choice but do you get the same benefit from getting your level to 40 to 60 from the sun as you do by swallowing a pill and especially as it relates to your major focus which is the impact on cancer. I’m concerned and I’m not sure that there is a (indiscernible 15:31) of treatment, maybe prevention but in the treatment I just don’t think it works. I could be wrong. That’s my fear.
So I really encourage – my new passion and mission is to get people away from swallowing those pills and if for any way, shape, or form to get to the real source, to get the UVB exposure. That’s a long-winded question but take as long as you want to respond to that.
CB: I think that it is obvious that the reason that we have this deficiency is because we have become an industrialized nation. That may sound like, but that was a long time ago. It wasn’t that long ago. What we’ve done is we’ve come inside. We cover up. Even in San Diego where I live, when they measured my level it was 18 nanograms per milliliter.
DM: Dangerous. For those who don’t know, San Diego is considered I think the sunniest city in the country.
CB: It’s pretty sunny.
DM: Or close to it. It’s definitely top.
CB: It’s very nice. When we did a scientific test of what it’s going to make body to get enough sun in San Diego with the weather we have with my age – age has a factor in how much you absorb – we came to a test conclusion that it was going take 15 to 20 minutes a day in the prime time of UV between 10 and 2 during the day, each and everyday – and here was the hooker for me – with 40% of my body exposed. For me outside that was just not going to happen because it was chilly. San Diego is chilly at least along the coast of it where I live. But that doesn’t change the question and the source.
I think there are two major questions that go through my mind. One is what else you’ll be getting from the sun? That’s the big one to me because I think that you can get your serum level up with supplements of some kind or another. You can get it up with the sun. I think at that level, we got to say, to me I think it’s the same. On the other hand, I think the UVB does other things. And there is only recently some new research coming out to say, what else does the sun do?
DM: Well, enlighten us.
CB: What else of course…I don’t know. It’s like it’s barely there. The scientists that do this kind of research with the skin are just starting to ask the question which is like, you know, there is probably more to the sun than vitamin D. I encourage people to take advantage of the sun. The only message I have about the sun is don’t burn. That’s it.
DM: Yeah.
CB: Other than if you want to get that UVB, you really have to be out between 10 and 2 not evening walks and stuff like that. I think that’s ideal.
DM: That’s the key. I noticed you are concerned about yourself going out there because of the temperature but in my observation is even though it’s chilly – I tend to go to subtropical areas in the winter to get the sun but there are still chilly days but I noticed that if the sun is shining on you, you can tolerate relatively low temperatures even low 60s to even high 50s if the sun is directly on you. So it’s not that uncomfortable.
CB: The other thing that I have a major question about which we have talked about with our scientist panel is, what’s the ultimate public health step? I mean, if you think about the world which has a very severe vitamin D deficiency epidemic yet you have taken supplements, it’s ludicrous. I mean, that’s people who can pay the money kind of job.
DM: It’s still pretty inexpensive.